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Bartolomei F, Makhalova J, Benoit J, Lagarde S. The different subtypes of temporal lobe seizures networks. Rev Neurol (Paris) 2025:S0035-3787(25)00485-0. [PMID: 40158910 DOI: 10.1016/j.neurol.2025.03.004] [Citation(s) in RCA: 0] [Impact Index Per Article: 0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 01/15/2025] [Revised: 03/01/2025] [Accepted: 03/04/2025] [Indexed: 04/02/2025]
Abstract
Temporal lobe epilepsies (TLEs) are among the forms of epilepsy most frequently encountered in surgical evaluations, characterized by a wide range of anatomical, functional, and electroclinical subtypes. Traditional classifications, such as mesial and lateral TLE, have been broadened by advances in stereoelectroencephalography (SEEG), revealing more complex forms such as mesio-lateral and temporal-plus seizures. These findings support the concept of epileptogenic networks, emphasizing interconnected regions rather than isolated focal areas in the genesis of seizures. Quantitative tools, such as the epileptogenicity index (EI), are improving the accuracy of SEEG interpretation, which is closely correlated with surgical results. Temporal-plus epilepsies, in particular, require full SEEG exploration due to their broader involvement in the network, necessitating tailored surgical approaches. A better understanding of TLEs subtypes and epileptogenic networks is an essential basis for advancing minimally invasive surgical techniques, including laser interstitial thermal therapy (LITT) and neuromodulation. These methods rely on the precise localization of epileptogenic networks. This network-based framework represents an important step towards optimizing surgical outcomes and advancing personalized epilepsy care.
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- F Bartolomei
- Aix-Marseille université, Inserm, INS, Institut de Neurosciences des Systèmes, 13005 Marseille, France; AP-HM, Timone Hospital, Epileptology and Cerebral Rhythmology, 13005 Marseille, France.
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- Aix-Marseille université, Inserm, INS, Institut de Neurosciences des Systèmes, 13005 Marseille, France; AP-HM, Timone Hospital, Epileptology and Cerebral Rhythmology, 13005 Marseille, France; Aix Marseille University, CNRS,CRMBM, Marseille, France
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- Aix-Marseille université, Inserm, INS, Institut de Neurosciences des Systèmes, 13005 Marseille, France; UF EEG-Épileptologie, Service de neurologie, University Hospitals of Nice, Nice, France; Université Côte d'Azur, CHU Nice, UR2CA-URRIS, Nice, France
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- Aix-Marseille université, Inserm, INS, Institut de Neurosciences des Systèmes, 13005 Marseille, France; AP-HM, Timone Hospital, Epileptology and Cerebral Rhythmology, 13005 Marseille, France
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Oane I, Barborica A, Mîndruţă I. Ictal semiology in temporo-frontal epilepsy: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Epileptic Disord 2024. [PMID: 39724402 DOI: 10.1002/epd2.20328] [Citation(s) in RCA: 0] [Impact Index Per Article: 0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 09/06/2024] [Revised: 12/11/2024] [Accepted: 12/11/2024] [Indexed: 12/28/2024]
Abstract
We performed a systematic review of the ictal semiology of temporo-frontal seizures with the aim to summarize the state-of-the-art anatomo-clinical correlations in the field, and help guide the interpretation of ictal semiology within the framework of presurgical evaluation. We conducted the systematic review and meta-analysis, and reported its results according to the Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis statement. We searched electronic databases (Scopus, PUBMED, Web of Science, and EMBASE) using relevant keywords related to temporal, frontal and sublobar structures, semiology, and electroencephalography/stereoelectroencephalography exploration. The risk of bias was evaluated using the QUADAS2. We included articles in English, reporting the seizure semiology of patients with temporal lobe epilepsy with temporal-frontal involvement and patients with frontal lobe epilepsy and fronto-temporal network involved. We performed hierarchical cluster analysis to determine signs and symptoms associated with the temporo-frontal epileptogenic network for all patients and for each subgroup (frontal/temporal seizure onset). Fisher exact test was performed to evaluate the difference in seizure freedom and clinical sign/symptom occurrence in patients that underwent unilobar versus bilobar resection. Meta-analysis on the prevalence of temporo-frontal/fronto-temporal involvement applying a random-effect model was used. We included 40 articles and we extracted data from 109 patients. The meta-analysis showed the total prevalence of temporo-frontal/fronto-temporal network involvement was 19.75%, CI 12.02-27.47, high heterogeneity (82.71%). For the whole group and subgroups, the main cluster of clinical manifestations is emotional, autonomic, cognitive, grimace, hyperkinetic (association coefficient higher than .6). Elementary motor semiology is significantly associated with multilobar resection (p = .022 whole group and p = .0012 fronto-temporal subgroup). Fifty-eight patients were seizure-free after surgery. There was no significant difference between seizure freedom in uni versus bilobar resections (p = .28). Seizures involving temporo-frontal/fronto-temporal network usually manifest with a cluster of signs and symptoms: emotional, autonomic, grimace, cognitive and hyperkinetic behavior. Based on semiology, one cannot distinguish between fronto-temporal and temporo-frontal cases at individual patient level. In those patients undergoing a surgical procedure, elementary motor seizure semiology is significantly associated with multilobar resection.
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- Irina Oane
- Neurology Department, Epilepsy Monitoring Unit, University Emergency Hospital Bucharest, Bucharest, Romania
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- Neurology Department, Epilepsy Monitoring Unit, University Emergency Hospital Bucharest, Bucharest, Romania
- Clinical Neurosciences Department, Carol Davila University of Medicine and Pharmacy, Bucharest, Romania
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Thompson SA. Kindling in humans: Does secondary epileptogenesis occur? Epilepsy Res 2023; 198:107155. [PMID: 37301727 DOI: 10.1016/j.eplepsyres.2023.107155] [Citation(s) in RCA: 1] [Impact Index Per Article: 0.5] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [MESH Headings] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 12/20/2021] [Revised: 04/01/2022] [Accepted: 04/25/2023] [Indexed: 06/12/2023]
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The relevance of secondary epileptogenesis for human epilepsy remains a controversial subject decades after it was first described in animal models. Whether or not a previously normal brain region can become independently epileptogenic through a kindling-like process has not, and cannot, be definitely proven in humans. Rather than reliance on direct experimental evidence, attempts to answering this question must depend on observational data. In this review, observations based largely upon contemporary surgical series will advance the case for secondary epileptogenesis in humans. As will be argued, hypothalamic hamartoma-related epilepsy provides the strongest case for this process; all the stages of secondary epileptogenesis can be observed. Hippocampal sclerosis (HS) is another pathology where the question of secondary epileptogenesis frequently arises, and observations from bitemporal and dual pathology series are explored. The verdict here is far more difficult to reach, in large part because of the scarcity of longitudinal cohorts; moreover, recent experimental data have challenged the claim that HS is acquired consequent to recurrent seizures. Synaptic plasticity more than seizure-induced neuronal injury is the likely mechanism of secondary epileptogenesis. Postoperative running-down phenomenon provides the best evidence that a kindling-like process occurs in some patients, evidenced by its reversal. Finally, a network perspective of secondary epileptogenesis is considered, as well as the possible role for subcortical surgical interventions.
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- Stephen A Thompson
- Department of Medicine (Neurology), McMaster University, Hamilton, ON, Canada.
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Arévalo-Astrada MA, Suller-Marti A, McLachlan RS, Paredes-Aragón E, Jones ML, Parrent AG, Mirsattari SM, Lau JC, Steven DA, Burneo JG. Involvement of the posterior cingulate gyrus in temporal lobe epilepsy: A study using stereo-EEG. Epilepsy Res 2023; 198:107237. [PMID: 37890266 DOI: 10.1016/j.eplepsyres.2023.107237] [Citation(s) in RCA: 0] [Impact Index Per Article: 0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [MESH Headings] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 03/20/2023] [Revised: 08/22/2023] [Accepted: 10/08/2023] [Indexed: 10/29/2023]
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OBJECTIVE To analyze the involvement of the posterior cingulate gyrus (PCG) during mesial temporal lobe seizures (MTLS). METHODS We retrospectively reviewed the stereo-EEG (SEEG) recordings of patients with MTLS performed in our institution from February 2013 to December 2020. Only patients who had electrode implantation in the PCG were included. Patients with lesions that could potentially alter the seizure spread pathways were excluded. We assessed the propagation patterns of MTLS with respect to the different structures sampled. RESULTS Nine of 97 patients who had at least one seizure originating in the mesial temporal region met the inclusion criteria. A total of 174 seizures were analyzed. The PCG was the first site of propagation in most of the cases (8/9 patients and 77.5% of seizures, and 7/8 patients and 65.6% of seizures after excluding an outlier patient). The fastest propagation times were towards the contralateral mesial temporal region and ipsilateral PCG. Seven patients underwent standard anterior temporal lobectomy and, of these, all but one were Engel 1 at last follow up. CONCLUSION We found the PCG to be the first propagation site of MTLS in this group of patients. These results outline the relevance of the PCG in SEEG planning strategies. Further investigations are needed to corroborate whether fast propagation to the PCG predicts a good surgical outcome.
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- Miguel A Arévalo-Astrada
- Division of Neurology, Department of Medicine, Ottawa Hospital Research Institute, University of Ottawa, 501 Smyth Box 511, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 8L6, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada; Department of Paediatrics, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada; Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada
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- Epilepsy Program, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada; Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada; Neuro-Epidemiology Unit, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, 339 Windermere Rd. London, Ontario N6A 5A5, Canada.
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Yin F, Yan X, Gao R, Ren Z, Yu T, Zhao Z, Zhang G. Radiomics features from 3D-MPRAGE imaging can differentiate temporal-plus epilepsy from temporal lobe epilepsy. Epileptic Disord 2023; 25:681-689. [PMID: 37349866 DOI: 10.1002/epd2.20092] [Citation(s) in RCA: 0] [Impact Index Per Article: 0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Grants] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 12/30/2022] [Revised: 05/15/2023] [Accepted: 06/21/2023] [Indexed: 06/24/2023]
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OBJECTIVE This study aimed to differentiate temporal-plus epilepsy (TPE) from temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) using extraction of radiomics features from three-dimensional magnetization-prepared rapid acquisition gradient echo (3D-MPRAGE) imaging data. METHODS Data from patients with TLE or TPE who underwent epilepsy surgery between January 2019 and January 2021 were retrospectively analyzed. Thirty-three regions of interest in the affected hemisphere of each patient were defined on 3D-MPRAGE images. A total of 3531 image features were extracted from each patient. Four feature selection methods and 10 machine learning algorithms were used to build 40 differentiation models. Model performance was evaluated using receiver operating characteristic analysis. RESULTS Eighty-two patients were included for analysis, 47 with TLE and 35 with TPE. The model combining logistic regression and the relief selection method had the best performance (area under the receiver operating characteristic curve, .779; accuracy, .875; sensitivity, .800; specificity, .929; positive predictive value, .889; negative predictive value, .867). SIGNIFICANCE Radiomics analysis can differentiate TPE from TLE. The logistic regression classifier trained with radiomics features extracted from 3D-MPRAGE images had the highest accuracy and best performance.
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- Fangzhao Yin
- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
- Tianjin Huanhu Hospital, Tianjin, China
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- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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- Beijing Institute of Functional Neurosurgery, Xuanwu Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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- Functional Neurosurgery Department, Beijing Children's Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing, China
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Chilukuri AS, Awkwayena E, Abel TJ. Insulo-opercular stereoelectroencephalography exploration in children and young adults: Indications, techniques, and safety. Epilepsia Open 2022; 7:729-736. [PMID: 36161288 PMCID: PMC9712468 DOI: 10.1002/epi4.12651] [Citation(s) in RCA: 0] [Impact Index Per Article: 0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Track Full Text] [Figures] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 07/12/2022] [Accepted: 09/21/2022] [Indexed: 12/30/2022] Open
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OBJECTIVE Sampling the insulo-opercular region with invasive recordings is crucial given the importance of this region in epileptic networks and a variety of electroclinical presentations. However, implantation of the insulo-opercular region via stereoelectroencephalography (sEEG) is considered technically challenging given complex vascular and gray matter relationships in this region. We investigated the safety of insulo-opercular sEEG exploration in children and young adults using standard sEEG approaches: (1) orthogonal insulo-opercular (including the pseudo-orthogonal insulo-opercular approach) and (2) medial-lateral insular oblique approach. METHODS We performed a retrospective cohort study of 30 consecutive patients who underwent 33 sEEG implantations. All patients had drug-resistant focal epilepsy, were between the ages of 4 and 21, and were operated at one institution between January 2019 and March 2021. Medical records and neuroimaging were reviewed. Hemorrhage, infection, and other complications were considered as outcome variables. RESULTS A total of 519 electrodes were placed. Eighty-one were placed orthogonally into the temporal operculum, 53 orthogonally into the frontal operculum, and 19 obliquely into the insula. sEEG electrodes localized seizure onset to the insulo-opercular region in eight patients, leading to a resection three times, an ablation four times, and one peri-insular hemispherectomy. Of the 519 electrodes placed, none of them exhibited hemorrhage or serious complications. Of the 153 electrodes placed into the insula, none had any permanent deficits or complications and one had minor bleeding due to the electrode breaking. SIGNIFICANCE These results demonstrate that the orthogonal (including pseudo-orthogonal) and medial approaches to sampling the insula are safe.
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- Department of Neurological SurgeryUniversity of PittsburghPittsburghPennsylvaniaUSA
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- Department of Neurological SurgeryUniversity of PittsburghPittsburghPennsylvaniaUSA,Department of BioengineeringUniversity of PittsburghPittsburghPennsylvaniaUSA
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Paredes-Aragon E, AlKhaldi NA, Ballesteros-Herrera D, Mirsattari SM. Stereo-Encephalographic Presurgical Evaluation of Temporal Lobe Epilepsy: An Evolving Science. Front Neurol 2022; 13:867458. [PMID: 35720095 PMCID: PMC9197919 DOI: 10.3389/fneur.2022.867458] [Citation(s) in RCA: 6] [Impact Index Per Article: 2.0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Track Full Text] [Download PDF] [Figures] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 02/01/2022] [Accepted: 04/25/2022] [Indexed: 11/15/2022] Open
Abstract
Drug-resistant epilepsy is present in nearly 30% of patients. Resection of the epileptogenic zone has been found to be the most effective in achieving seizure freedom. The study of temporal lobe epilepsy for surgical treatment is extensive and complex. It involves a multidisciplinary team in decision-making with initial non-invasive studies (Phase I), providing 70% of the required information to elaborate a hypothesis and treatment plans. Select cases present more complexity involving bilateral clinical or electrographic manifestations, have contradicting information, or may involve deeper structures as a part of the epileptogenic zone. These cases are discussed by a multidisciplinary team of experts with a hypothesis for invasive methods of study. Subdural electrodes were once the mainstay of invasive presurgical evaluation and in later years most Comprehensive Epilepsy Centers have shifted to intracranial recordings. The intracranial recording follows original concepts since its development by Bancaud and Talairach, but great advances have been made in the field. Stereo-electroencephalography is a growing field of study, treatment, and establishment of seizure pattern complexities. In this comprehensive review, we explore the indications, usefulness, discoveries in interictal and ictal findings, pitfalls, and advances in the science of presurgical stereo-encephalography for temporal lobe epilepsy.
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- Elma Paredes-Aragon
- Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Western University, London, ON, Canada
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- Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Western University, London, ON, Canada.,Neurology Department, King Fahad Hospital of the University, Imam Abdulrahman Bin Faisal University, Dammam, Saudi Arabia
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- Neurosurgery Department, National Institute of Neurology and Neurosurgery "Dr. Manuel Velasco Suárez", Mexico City, Mexico
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- Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Western University, London, ON, Canada.,Departments of Clinical Neurological Sciences, Diagnostic Imaging, Biomedical Imaging and Psychology, Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry, Western University, London, ON, Canada
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Barba C, Rheims S, Minotti L, Grisotto L, Chabardès S, Guenot M, Isnard J, Pellacani S, Hermier M, Ryvlin P, Kahane P. Surgical outcome of temporal plus epilepsy is improved by multilobar resection. Epilepsia 2022; 63:769-776. [PMID: 35165888 DOI: 10.1111/epi.17185] [Citation(s) in RCA: 3] [Impact Index Per Article: 1.0] [Reference Citation Analysis] [Abstract] [Key Words] [Track Full Text] [Journal Information] [Subscribe] [Scholar Register] [Received: 10/16/2021] [Revised: 01/28/2022] [Accepted: 01/28/2022] [Indexed: 11/29/2022]
Abstract
OBJECTIVE Temporal plus epilepsy (TPE) represents a rare type of epilepsy characterized by a complex epileptogenic zone including the temporal lobe and the close neighboring structures. We investigated whether the complete resection of temporal plus epileptogenic zone as defined through stereoelectroencephalography (SEEG) might improve seizure outcome in 38 patients with TPE. METHODS Inclusion criteria were as follows: epilepsy surgery performed between January 1990 and December 2001, SEEG defining a temporal plus epileptogenic zone, unilobar temporal operations ("temporal lobe epilepsy [TLE] surgery") or multilobar interventions including the temporal lobe ("TPE surgery"), magnetic resonance imaging either normal or showing signs of hippocampal sclerosis, and postoperative follow-up of at least 12 months. For each assessment of postoperative seizure outcome, at 1, 2, 5, and 10 years, we carried out descriptive analysis and classical tests of hypothesis, namely, Pearson χ2 test or Fisher exact test of independence on tables of frequency for each categorical variable of interest and Student t-test for each continuous variable of interest, when appropriate. RESULTS Twenty-one patients underwent TPE surgery and 17 underwent TLE surgery with a follow-up of 12.4 ± 8.16 years. In the multivariate models, there was a significant effect of the time from surgery on Engel Class IA versus IB-IV outcome, with a steadily worsening trend from 5-year follow-up onward. TPE surgery was associated with better results than TLE surgery. SIGNIFICANCE This study suggests that surgical outcome in patients with TPE can be improved by a tailored, multilobar resection and confirms that SEEG is mandatory when a TPE is suspected.
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- Carmen Barba
- Neuroscience Department, Meyer Children's Hospital-University of Florence, member of the ERN EpiCARE, Florence, Italy
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- Lyon Neuroscience Research Center, INSERM U1028, CNRS UMR5292, Lyon, France.,Department of Functional Neurology and Epileptology, Hospices Civils de Lyon and University of Lyon, member of the ERN EpiCARE, Lyon, France.,Lyon 1 University, Lyon, France
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- CHU Grenoble Alpes, Univ. Grenoble-Alpes, Inserm, U1216, Grenoble Institut Neurosciences, Grenoble, France
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- Department of Statistics, Computer Science, G. Parenti Application, University of Florence, Florence, Italy
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- CHU Grenoble Alpes, Univ. Grenoble-Alpes, Inserm, U1216, Grenoble Institut Neurosciences, Grenoble, France
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- Department of Functional Neurology and Epileptology, Hospices Civils de Lyon and University of Lyon, member of the ERN EpiCARE, Lyon, France.,Department of Functional Neurosurgery, Hospices Civils de Lyon, Lyon, France
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- Lyon Neuroscience Research Center, INSERM U1028, CNRS UMR5292, Lyon, France.,Department of Functional Neurology and Epileptology, Hospices Civils de Lyon and University of Lyon, member of the ERN EpiCARE, Lyon, France
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- Neuroscience Department, Meyer Children's Hospital-University of Florence, member of the ERN EpiCARE, Florence, Italy
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- Department of Neuroradiology, Hospices Civils de Lyon, Lyon, France
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- Department of Clinical Neurosciences, Vaudois University Hospital Center, University of Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland
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- CHU Grenoble Alpes, Univ. Grenoble-Alpes, Inserm, U1216, Grenoble Institut Neurosciences, Grenoble, France
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